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Hillary got 1,188,961 votes in NC and approximately 685,000 were all that was counted
Neither Clinton or Obama has EVER had any chance of getting elected in November, which is why the DC insiders posing as unbiased news personalities shoved Clinton and Obama down Democratic voters throats from day one of 2007, to FOOL THEM into believing that their only two real choices for November were Clinton and Obama, the two candidates that the GOP wanted to face from the beginning.
They didn't want to face Edwards, which is why the media ignored him all of 2004 and made sure to pick away at him while pushing Clinton and Obama all of 2007 to make sure that he didn't gain any traction in the 2008 cycle.
Now, Democrats are done for.
I'm so glad that someone else is smart enough to see it, Adolph.
The truth is that the only person qualified to be President is Adolf Reed :)
As Kentucky, Pennsylvania and West Virginia attest, Obama does NOT do well with rank and file average Americans, regardless of colour, though these three places are predominantly white working stiffs.
In 2004 the Republicans did poorly in the large urban areas, but fabulously well in less densely populated America, precisely where Obama has his greatest weakness. It is well known that major urban centers are liberal bastions.
But we also know that if Hillary gets the nomination, Jackson, Sharpton and their ilk will raise their voices of betrayal and blame white America for racism once again instead of looking at the real data and seeing that Obama just couldn't pull out the election, but that Hillary, if she is really good and convincing -- and McCain stumbles a bit more than he already has -- will win and put a Dem in the White House, the real goal of the DNC.
Deal with it.
I don't where all the American's live who think the country is sinking or diminished in the world's eyes or mean or the people are being "ground under" as the Rev. Wright said. Wake up, people. We're living in the golden age of the greatest nation that has ever existed in the history of Man. Do we have problems? Sure. Is there room for improvement? You betcha. But it's not Obama's airy prescription that we need to do do better, it's hard work, common sense and a clear sense of right and wrong -- something that Americans in the 20th century had in abundance. Our challenge going forward is to not lose hold of our fine American heritage but to embrace it and do our best to secure our own strength and prosperity while we advance the principles of liberty and democracy to a dangerous world, but one that is badly in need of America's aid and influence.
As for Obama's 'Hope and Change?' If you are currently under his spell, dazzled by his callow hand-waving and smarmy rhetoric, misty over the idea of a (half) black man becoming president, then I suspect no words will get through to you. But I see this as a more fitting slogan for him: "Whine and Blame." This local government dilettante is going to bring fundamental change to America? How? By tearing up the constitution? By snake charming the Republicans in Congress? By smiling at all those nasty “petty dictators?” Gimme a break. To steal a phrase from a past presidential campaign, "Where's the Beef?"
I am so glad to see that other heretics are abroad in the land who don't believe in the miraculous healing powers of the soon to be anointed one!
I've been thinking and saying many of the things you write about for many months to no avail in terms of trying to alert those who have drunk of the kool aid.
People are snowed and they just don't want to deal with the reality of Obama or the reality that it's going to take more than electing more centrist/corporate Democrats to bring about change. I must say that much of Hillary's support, in my opinion, also consists of a nearly cultish belief that by simply changing the gender of the President a miraculous and sanctified change will come down from the heavens and bless our nation once again. Of course, that's pure rubbish, but that is what's going on. Look at the numbers of white women voting in droves for Hillary. It's the only thing that has kept her campaign afloat.
The most important point of all though, is that because he is just another in the long line of Democrats who have chosen to take the course Obama has, he is unlikely to win in November. The same is true for Hillary. But people, who are otherwise intelligent and discerning just don't want to be bothered with those inconvenient facts. They think if they just wish hard enough and long enough the miracle will occur. Winning Powerball is more likely, but still they dream of the mystic transformation of the man who is the physical embodiment of paradigm shift, etc...
Meanwhile, all of the "progressives" out there who abandoned every position they believe in to elect a symbol of change instead of someone who will bring about change will scratch their heads and wonder why the miracle did not occur. I envision this will be somewhat akin to the astonishment of Seventh Day Adventists who have twice waited patiently for the return of Jesus on a day specified by their leaders only to be dumbfounded when the glorious miracle did not occur. This is, of course, followed by profound disillusionment.
There are a few people out there who actually care about the issues affecting working people's lives yet don't trumpet their name at every opportunity: Adolph Reed is one of them. And frankly, as a young person, that's the type of political figure I admire. Not some media-generated rock star with no discernible programmatic agenda.
Thank you, sir, for this well written, articulate, and illuminating article. Why so many are not seeing this person for who is he dumbfounds me. I agree with one poster, a vast number of people supporting him have abandoned their own moral and ethical convictions to usher in Obama.
After extensive research concerning Obama, I am very distressed at the thought of him being in the White House. Is it because Obama is a part African American? NO, it is not! I refuse to support anyone who has so many views and stands that are contrary to my own. When this election is over, I will still have to live with my choice for president.
Why the media, reporters, magazines, political figures, etc. was perfectly willing to report on the Wright controversy, they refuse to report the scarier, more threatening situations and people is associates with. This whole process has been spun and assured by the "powers that be". For me, all of the insistence, maneuvering, under handed actions to get Obama elected should be very unnerving to the people in this country. Instead, they have contributed to and insured Obama remained the one and only choice.
Since you have had dealings with Obama that go back to the beginning of his political career, you are in the position to KNOW what you are talking about and I am thankful you have retained your values and self respect. Obviously, you haven't sold out or bought into all of the tactics used to convince the masses to vote for him. I truly admire your willingness to express your views and the honesty used in your article. I bet you are an awesome Professor!
Obama's connection to the atrocities taking place in Africa is too close for my comfort. He greatly respects and supports his brother and cousin, who are part of a faction trying to take over their country. The bloody, cruel, heartbreaking, and ruthless way this "revolt" is taking place should scare any normal person. Burning a christian church, with women and children inside, and having no hesitation or remorse for this despicable act leaves little room for doubt these people are not going to be receptive to "unity and peace". Their country is getting change. The change taking place has been made possible by killings, torture, unspeakable violence and totally heartless actions. To me, nothing justifies these killings. How then, could we support a President who supports these people? His brother is WRONG and a threat to the safety and well being of the people. The Kenyan newspapers (and others that know what is going on there) have denounced this faction and reported on the atrocities taking place.
I can't support a man who votes against the "Born Alive Protection Act" repeatedly and stands by that vote 100%. Do I want a man, as my president, who has no compassion or moral conviction to condone making sure a baby that was born alive, as the result of an abortion, DIES, is way beyond Roe V Wade.
The thought of watching an infant struggle for breath, being "set aside" in a closet or box or what have you, until "it" dies seems so barbaric. I can't imagine anyone participating in this horrid act, yet they have or there would have been no need to make this act illegal. Yet, Obama continually voted against this act. He even said it was the WOMAN'S choice to have an abortion and thus this "fetus" (completely out of the body and ALIVE) was a product of the abortion and basically his opinion boiled down to: the intent of the abortion was to end a pregnancy and the development/life of the fetus. So... the expelled fetus was supposed to die and no measures should be taken to aid this born alive infant . Thus, anyone complying with this "thought" would be aiding in the death of an infant by neglect. Thank goodness others DID think this was not acceptable and they passed the Born Alive Protection Act.
Are these the only issues that bother me? No they are not. But, I could write all day, even providing reliable source information and documentation concerning my thoughts and his actions, but it has seemed to make no difference. In fact, it seems to encourage others to vote for him all the more. So, again, thank you for your honesty and willingness to take the "backlash" and nastiness your honesty will invoke.
This Awful Caucus Skew ratified the results of my 2400 volunteer phone calls. 87-yr-old Vera in Iowa told me, "Oh no, honey, I can't caucus for Hillary. I'm a cripple." Taken aback, I said, "Well, you could vote-by-mail Absentee!" She said, "Not in a caucus state. No Absentee Ballot. If I can't get there in my body, I don't count." "I don't count"? In America? In the Democratic Party? 82-yr-old Ruth told me indignantly, "Just because I'm sick doesn't mean I can't think!"
I began to keep track. Every 8th phone call I made in a Caucus State got me Lorna, "Oh no,dear, I don't dare go out to caucus, I'm off balance." There is an epidemic of housebound older women in America who are cheated of their votes by their terrible fear of falling and because the appalling caucus system does not allow them an Absentee Ballot. No 'ride to the polls' helps these housebound and bedbound voters. Only the Absentee Ballot. It is a scandal of voter suppression. THEIR votes don't show up in those ballyhooed pledged delegates and popular vote.
Did you never wonder why Mr. Obama won mainly in caucus states? Hillary's core vote was prevented from participating in Caucus States. I wish Obama supporters would be honest. Suppose 15% of black voters were prevented from participating? Would there not be an outcry for voting justice. Of course.
This kind of Mockery of Democracy in Caucus States is exactly why superdelegates were created.(Non-lemming) superdelegates were designed to account for gross injustice like the huge voter suppression of Hillary's core voters in Caucus States.
Despite the Parroted Media Myth in pseudo-reporting, Hillary did NOT lose the women's vote in Iowa. She did NOT 'get back the women's vote' in New Hampshire because she teared up in a diner. Nonsense. Her voters were forbidden the Absentee Ballot in caucus Iowa. They got back the Absentee Ballot in primary New Hampshire.
The Math is NOT the Math. Your students could run the math and see that if Hillary's housebound voters were accounted for in Caucus States, she would be comfortably ahead in all the vaunted metrics.
Here's your tip:
Votes Cast:
Votes counted.
Hillary lost. End of story. The DNC has rules for how the primary will be run. Those rules are promulgated long before the runs begin. Hillary lost. End of story.
I started as an edwards supporter, and m now supporting Hillary, mostly for similar reasons, but also because she comes across as tough, and a fighter. Ultimately we can only judge a candidate by the mandate they seek. With edwards gone, she's my choice.
Again thank-you and please keep writing.
Invariably, someone will pipe up and vouch for personal groundedness - claiming he or she understands he isn't a prophet, or that his or her personal support isn't based on the hope rhetoric. Of course that doesn't explain why Mr. Obama resorts to the empty rhetoric. SOMEONE believes it - apparently quite a few supporters, or he wouldn't constantly repeat it.
Obama is vacuous. He is a neoliberal. He has no experience, and has spent his entire brief political career in personal aggrandizement. A major reason Obama has succeeded has been the adoption of the right wing war against the Clintons - either in the passive form (Clinton has too many enemies to win) or in an irrational attack on her as Rovian. In fact, Clinton and Obama are largely the same on policy. It just so happens that Clinton could execute the job of President, and Obama is likely to be a one term disaster - the challenges we face are too large, and his promises too large and too empty, to lead to anything else.
The American people voted an empty suit in 2000 and 2004 The Democrats want one for 2008. It's a shame - we could have had a President instead.
One enormous story that Rev. Wright blew out of the media and Obama should be thanking him for is about Obama's backscratch and subsequent IL state money for Blackwell's Killerspin. Why in the world is that not a media worth story and certainly one voters should be aware of. Ping Pong Democracy we've had enough of.
While the Clintons (whom novelist Toni Morrison self-deludingingly called "the first Black president" -- so you see we've already had one -- shows she's been around white folks at Princeton too long) are certainly slimey people (as must be evidenced by all their, I guess now former, friends, even from the first Clinton administration, who are supporting Obama) -- and who've been playing the race card since Bill's original presidential campaign attack on Sister Souljah -- an Obama presidency will be worse for reasons Adolph Reed didn't mention: white-America (even those whites who didn't/would't vote for Obama and even those who vote/d for McCain) will be screaming that, "Racism is over!! The rest of you Blacks quit complaining: we don't owe you (in educational, vocational, economic and other social upliftment programs) a damn thing anymore (not even the Katrina victims)!!"
Hillary was right about one thing though: "Before he was in the Congress, Obama said that, had he been in the Congress, he would have voted to oppose going to war in Iraq. When Obama got into the Congress, he suddenly said that he wasn't sure how he would have voted. Later in three successive years, he's voted for $300 BILLION dollars [at least a minimum that the govt admits] to *continue* the war in Iraq. So, where's the *change*???" [Do you *hear* that "Angus", below?]
There are those, self-deluded every four years, like "Angus" below (he actually thinks that a Obama, anymore than Hillary/McCain, is going to -- get this!! -- " run out the special interests"!!), who still think that a Democrat (or any conventional politician) is capable of running one way and ruling another way -- that, "once he gets in, you'll see" [yes, we will, once again]. But WHERE have we ever seen that in American history? Some people, like Earl Ofari Hutchison even believed this about U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas -- one of the most anti-Black justices, since slavery -- that once Thomas got a judicial appointment for life, he'd turn into Thurgood Marshall.
There's not enough time and space for me to point out the most important lessons of American history, but MOVEMENTS have always been more important than presidents.
Obama is right about one thing (when he rebutted Hillary's attack on his lack of substance, by saying, "What's wrong with inspiration?"): America, in general, even in the worst of these times, just wants to *feel good* -- not to *think*. The Clintons are mad because Obama seemingly outfoxed them on empty rhetoric.
I say -- about both Democrats -- that if you want to just *feel* good, then get a teddy bear. If you want *inspiration*, then get a Hallmark card. And if you want trite *platitudes*, then get a "Chicken Soup for the Soul" book.
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Joseph Anderson
occasional sociopolitical essayist
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Berkeley, CA
Obama’s campaign .... is in some ways a Potemkin construction—......that will fall apart under Republican pressure.
And then where will we be?
But -- Where will we be if he doesn't win?
Your 'debate' companion on Democracy Now (apology for not remembering her name, a very bright woman) this morning suggested 'What about hope?', tongue in cheek but serious. You've left no room at all for possibilities. This is very depressing indeed.
Am still looking to see if I can find Obama at the Jena 6 March, and at the State of the Black Union Forum. I understand that Tavis Smiley, his brother, and his mother received death threats because he made some negative comments about Obama not attending the forum. I did watch most of the forum, and what was most disconcerting was the discussion from the OH Representative about the threats made to the Super Delegates who are members of the CBC who had not come out in support of Obama.
I'm still waiting for more than "hope" as a message from Obama, and how in the world he'd going to magically get all of Washington DC's political scene to go along with is "new way".
Someone other than McCain or Obama 2008
Ghassan
If the Democrats decided on a clear set of objectives and values rather than pandering to an imagined backlash against their being 'too liberal' or 'not religious enough' and were forthright about their beliefs AND proud of them, they might be seen as possessing a bit of spine and may thereby attract uncertain voters. As it is their invertebrate nature renders them easy targets for aggressive Republicans who are unapologetic about their (mostly) despicable and socially regressive views. What did it mean for example when Kerry was called the 'most liberal senator' in the US? It provoked defensive denial rather than preening pride in the Democratic Party. They have to be willing to risk losing in order to win convincingly. Maybe the Right has to make an even worse mess of things than the current administration ( if that can be imagined), before people finally really wake up and begin to mistrust them in a way that they truly deserve. Then it will be possible for Democrats to speak as one and point to all the failed policies without having to convince people. They will hopefully have a genuine alternative to offer . For it is the lack of this that creates the 'swing voters'.
I am impress by the way peole feel inlcined to justify supporting or not attacking Clinton in the same way that they feel uncomfortable with rejecting Obama simply because they disagree with his agenda and his portray of himself and his campaign.
I hope more so journalists feel compelled to develop the kind of honest work such as this that is so needed.
I too doubt that either candidate could beat out McCain, but Obama's wining of the democratic candidacy would be ultimately detrimental to the cause of true progressive thinkers for the very reasons described in this article. Bravo. Furthermore, his denunciation of Wright this week is the first glaring hole in his armor, underneath we find a scared politician whose skin is thinner and whiter than any video enhancement could doctor.
Second, Reed, himself, has done an excellent job of documenting and denouncing Bill Clinton’s embracing of a Rightist agenda during his eight years as president. So, I am unclear as to how Hillary is the lesser evil? Similar to Craig, I view a potential Hillary presidency as only furthering the neo-liberal project at the expense of poor and working people. Does anyone recall that Hillary’s response to the current sub-prime and foreclosure crisis was to advocate for Greenspan, Volcker, and Rubin to convene a working group to address the problem? These are the very people responsible for laying the very foundation that led to the crisis! So, how exactly is Hillary a viable choice?
Finally, as Reed notes it’s likely that neither Hillary nor Obama will be able to beat McCain in November. For years now, the Democrats have failed miserably in creating or articulating an effective opposition. The likely scenario will be for McCain to win with the Democrats gaining additional House and Senate seats with the outcome another four years of gridlock and do-nothing Congresses. Perhaps, this is merely symptomatic of an Empire and petite-bourgeois democracy in its last throes. In the meantime, progressives must continue to mobilize and build a political block that can put real pressure on local, state, and federal policy makers.
Dr. Reed is also wildly off base about Obama's community organizing. He worked with the Gamaliel Foundation which has impeccable "progressive" credentials. They build power for low income people, and work primarily with churches.
To see the results of their work Dr. Reed need only look as far as his own backyard - in Chicago's Pilsen neighborhood which has been transformed from a place that struggled with all of the worst problems of urban Chicago into a sucessful, Mexican immigrant neighborhood that is thriving wo/ sucumbing to the gentrification that many other neighborhoods face.
He was a GI organizer during Vietnam, a leading figure of the Labor Party's (who worked tirelessly on the campaign for free higher education and other progressive causes). Just because he does not constantly advertise himself, does not mean he is not a lot our there as I am doing and probably you. But since I don't know you I have to keep that a guess.
So engage with his arguments rather than his person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um07FAU1V5w
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/pilsen-gentri...
For my part, Obama may yet pull off a win, assuming McCain makes some big mistakes. If Obama does win, it will be proof that angry blacks and rich, lilly-white liberals soaked with liberal guilt make up a big enough portion of the population to elect such a callow and self-absorbed cipher.
Such a nation may deserve Obama, but I don't.
Senator Obama claims that much of his "experience" for the job comes from him being a "community organizer." Prof. Reed -- correctly, I might add -- deflates the value of Obama's previous job duties with respect to his qualification to become CIC.
[As a side note, many of us conservatives were also turned off by Congressman Ron Paul, due to his stated desire to not uphold the constitutional duties of CIC.]
Anyone see how those neighborhoods were never rebuilt...
My initial fear was that Obama would win the nomination. Now I am not so sure. From the beginning I just did not feel "right" about the cult following, the "umbrage" politics (you are racist if you criticize Obama) and the chameleon aspects of his "personality". It was like the entire bi=opic movie of Obama the candidate was filmed with vaseline over a long range lense.
I was not and have never in the past been a Hillary supporter. However, she was infinately a better choice.
What gets me is the battle at the elite level. You have Pelosi-Reid-Dean propping Obama up as the epitome of the "new democratic party coalition" ....suburban/urban, eduated, white collar. Couldn't believe Donna Brazile's meltdown on TV last week. You have the "old guard" fighting all the way to the convention. I hope Hillary DOES take it to the Denver convention floor.
"How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton"
http://www.tnr.com/toc/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0...
P.S.: If you ever get the time, I'd love to hear what you mean by "the scurrilous and ridiculous sort of narrative Bill Cosby has made infamous," which makes not a word of sense to me. I dream of a day when people back up their comments on the Clintons.
Clearly, Adolph's enlightened view that hope and change and new directions is just an evil neoliberal ruse must, by his own definition (and we must all agree that the good professor is certainly better positioned to create such a definition than anyone else), disqualify this fake black candidate. Equally clearly, Hillary's apparent lack of interest in such nonsense and support for the same policy positions qualifies her to be the good neoliberal who will lose to McCain; because, let's face it, McCain is a Republican and Republicans will obviously win because, well, they aren't neoliberals.
Professor, you clearly need a better job. They aren't paying you enough or you might be able to buy a clue. Hillary has lost. The fat lady was doing a sound check in the middle of March and her singing performance took place before the middle of April. Beyond that, McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning in November. He may be worthy of sympathy for the treatment he received as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, but he's certainly not a hero. If he had been a hero in that situation, he'd be dead...as many of his fellow comrades in those hellholes are.
As a politician, McCain claims to be a proponent of 'straight talk' but anyone who does just a bit of research will come away with the inescapable realization that he believes straight talk encompasses espousing diametrically and blatantly opposite positions on the same subject depending upon who he thinks might be listening to him at the moment; and that such straight talk includes the amazing ability to flip-flop not just once or twice or three times but as many times as it takes to achieve the desired self-serving result without ever having to explain why he's done it. (McCain straight talk means never having to say you're a more than obvious bold-faced liar.)
Some aspects of this primary campaign do remind me of an earlier one, though. At the risk of ruining my newfound (see above) credibility as a naive teenage Obamamaniac black man who knows nothing that's happened prior to falling of the turnip truck last week, the campaign of which I speak occurred in 1960. An exceptionally power hungry and extremely cynical politician with experience in the Senate (more experience than a certain ex-Whitehouse resident) ran a campaign which achieved a lot of success with partially veiled race-bating comments coupled with obvious denigration of his opponent's religious affiliation and lack of experience in said Senate. In reply, the opponent ran a campaign that has such obvious multiple parallels to that of a certain current Senator from Illinois that one can only assume that the Senator from Illinois in question has done his political homework quite assiduously. The experienced Senator lost, in case you're just now keeping score.
Those parallels will break down entirely, though, when it comes time for the general election because the 1960 election was not characterized at all by a completely failed presidency which had seemingly embraced policies specifically designed to destroy America. Instead, we'll have a general election in which the candidate of the party in power is a more extreme proponent of such failed policies than even the most discredited and disliked president in our history. In short, Kennedy barely defeated Nixon because there was no great impetus for change, but Obama will crush McNutjob because the hunger among the electorate for change is so clear that only the most delusional can ignore it.
(In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not only not actually a naive brainwashed teenage Obamamaniac - when we're over 60 we aren't teenagers anymore, right? - but I'm also not black. I voted for Obama in the primary after initially supporting Edwards and I'm going to do so again in November, because I've had enough of insane lunatics in the White House and I truly appreciate his intelligence, policy positions, AND his style.)
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BTW, one comment here regarding health plans reminds me that most of Hillary's rabid fans have no clue what her plan is all about. She wants the insurance companies firmly entrenched in the health care loop...which is a really good plan if we want to proceed down the same road that is about to bankrupt the country now. Of course, if you believe that 20-25 percent of the gross domestic product of the nation's economy should be gobbled up by the health care and drug lobby (which is what will happen within 10 years if either nothing is done or Hillary's plan is adopted) then you can safely, if not intelligently, just ignore that annoying information.
"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer."
Obama No.
You say that once he gets on the really big stage of the general race, his contradictions will be too big for him to conceal any longer. But you've done a very poor job of convincing me that his contradictions are really that huge. Basically, it seems to come down to the fact that he says different things to African American audiences than to white audiences. But every politician does this.
Vacuous? Possibly corrupt? Fixated on image? Promises more than he can possibly deliver? Capitalizing on public concern over serious issues without offering real solutions?
Congratulations: you've identified a successful national politician in America.
I really do wish you'd had something more substantial to offer, but oh well.
Your obviously offended that someone didnt call Hillary the "big evil".
Obama is superficial..meaning he lacks substance and relies on image.
Clinton's argument against Obama was that he lacks experience, and she is better able to beat McCain because she has that substance.
The truth hurts. .so please enjoy your Obama delierium now, because McCain is going to run him over with the straight talk express!
be " surprised " that she is also "full of herself,just like this Bush-clown of president" !
President Barack Obama will do just fine for the majority of Americans...trust me.
I suppose Obama doesn't like that she is running.
Cudos to the Progressive for running this. There has been such a one-sided treatment of Obama in the media which is run by a bunch of spoiled, dumb rich kids who do not read. If one has not read Mike Royko's Boss and writes about Obama, they are stupid to me. That book illuminates how sinister it is that Michelle Obama's father was a Daley precinct captain.
At least, I will be able to use the Obama candidacy to make a great deal of money through lawsuits. I was a journalism major at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. I left school because of money. I was not readmitted to the journalism school because my previous time at the school, I was the only Black editor at the Daily Cardinal and complained about racist treatment at the newspaper, where I was asked about the size of my penis because I was black and asked to demonstrate Black dances. I was also called a race traitor by white progressives because I refused to run articles about gangster rap because having done gang intervention on the South Side of Chicago, I found it harmful. I brought this up to Dean of Students at the University of Wisconsin and they refused to do anything.
This is how propaganda starts and institutions like the UW contributed to this uniformed ascent of Obama, which this article does a good job of illuminating as ill informed.
I have more knowledge about Obama than any other journalist and will be suing every news organization that has a former Daily Cardinal editor who blocked my hiring as his ascent and my early little read coverage and interviews with him proves that I am a much better journalist than most out there, white or black.
This will be fun. Especially watching this trope grow from this article and the Democrats realizing they made the biggest mistake in their history.
Obama is sending true progressives flocking to Nader.
I submit, that Obama represents absolutely represents no change of substance, just a younger, slicker package. Just look at his stand on FISA, his turn-around on campaign finance and his fealty to Zionists.
If he can support the FISA bill with retroactive immunity to telecoms for violating our Constitutional rights, he is no different than what we got.
I am a liberal, and proud of it--no apologies. With that said, the only candidate that was running this year that would have made a difference was Ron Paul. As scary as he was on social issues, he is a genuine, card-carrying Constitutionalist. That is the pact the government has with We, the People. The U.S. Constitution is THE important document that has been recently labeled antiquated by politicians who do the bidding of corporations, rather than We, the People.
I agree with the author, Obama is a NeoLiberal. A vaguely different package, but still the same ole, same ole.
“Vacuous opportunist.” “Repugnant stratagem.” “Makes so many lefties go weak in the knees.” “Young minions.” “Hysterically indignant reaction. “Horribly opportunistic approach.” “The babble about Obama’s transcendence...”
Prof. Reed starts off by saying “I’ve known [Obama] since the very beginning of his political career, which was his campaign for the seat in my state senate district in Chicago.”
Hmmm. Wonder what went down during that campaign and what Reed’s part in it was. It apparently scarred him for life.
Googling the Professor indicates that he gets his living – or at least his tenure and reputation – as an analyst of Black/White race relations. Advertising a clambake in which he was to participate, the Petersburg People’s News of 03/24/08 probably reproduced his own handout:
“Dr. Reed is a professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania. He is the editor of Race, Politics, and Culture and With Justice for All, and author of The Jesse Jackson Phenomenon, W. E. B. DuBois and American Political Thought, and Stirrings in the Jug. He is a longtime and frequent contributor to The Nation, The Village Voice, The Progressive and other publications.”
This article is too apoplectic (and too lacking in specifics) to reveal where the professor stands on race relations in general, but a couple of sentences suggest where he’s coming from:
“[Obama] actually goes beyond Clinton and rehearses the scurrilous and ridiculous sort of narrative Bill Cosby has made infamous.”
and
“[Obama’s] Philadelphia compromise speech—a string of well-crafted and coordinated platitudes and hollow images worthy of an SUV commercial.”
I’d have to guess that Prof. Reed is Black, if only because no white professor would be permitted his fulminations against prominent African Americans. In academia as in tassel-twirling, ya gotta have a gimmick; and Prof Reed seems to have developed a profitable line of professional racial truculence.
Not many got behind Dennis Kucinich when he was still running as a candidate. Nor any of the other hopefuls that could have proved better than Obama or Clinton. We are stuck with Obama, who has betrayed us, but he is still the only remaining option. I see a future filled with other FISA vote type disappointments. But there is not any doubt that he will be less of a disaster than McCain.
We still have a senate, house, and supreme court. The damage that Obama could contain might be checked. You cannot say the same about Hillary attempting to totally obliterate the 66 million people living in Iran. You lose, but you don't lose as badly as if Hillary or McCain had won.
I'd be happy to vote for Obama's granny, but not Obama.
If the Green Party's national candidate can win 5% in November, it'll be on its way to becoming a major party. If we elect a couple of Greens to Congress in 2008, it'll throw such a scare into the Dems that they'll sign on in droves to single-payer national health care, repeal of Taft-Hartley, quick withdrawal of troops from Iraq, and a lot of other things that we all wish they'd do.
Why was there no political will to challenge the Bush agenda when Dems gained control of Congress in 2006? The Democrats have no reason to pursue any of the above goals because their only real competition is from the GOP. They're very happy to keep the public debate on every issue as narrow as possible, with media coverage limited to Republican vs. 'moderate' (i.e., corporate-friendly and pro-military) Democrat, even marginalizing their own progressive voters & officeholders.
Every excuse that progressives use to dismiss the Green Party (including the craven 'spoiler' accusation) only serves to maintain the political status quo and ensure that progressive, populist, and ecological goals never see the light of day. The US is heading in a very destructive political direction, and will continue to do so whether we elect Dems or Repubs to the White House and Congress. As in the 1850s, when a new abolitionist third party (the Republicans) emerged, the only way to disrupt the current political direction is to help a new political party gain power.
There are four candidates running for the Green Party's presidential nomination: Jesse Johnson, Cynthia McKinney, Kent Mesplay, and Kat Swift. Their web sites are linked at the party's web site (gp.org). There's a growing list of Greens for Congress and state legislatures, too.
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and their fellow mainstream Dems in Congress voted in favor of President Bush's request for more war funding. None of them lifted a finger for impeachment of the most criminal administration in history. What more do you need to know?
Let's stop wasting time!
Scott McLarty
Media Coordinator, Green Party of the United States
PS See my "America needs a drastic change of political landscape" posted at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_scott_m...
Is Obama going to denounce most of Black America too? -- because Rev. Jeremiah Wright (in a city, having stiff competition, once called "the most racist city north of the South" and "the capital of racism in the North") hasn't said anything that Malcolm X or Martin Luther King *didn't* say (in words or substance, especially in the last few years of his life, coming closer to Malcolm's political analysis) or that most of Black America *doesn't* believe (for example, about racism or U.S. foreign policy).
Addendum:
And as for U.S. foreign policy, as another Black minister and prestigious university professor once said: "No Black person in America woke up on 9-11 wondering, 'Why do they hate us [the U.S.]?'"
Joseph Anderson
Berkeley, CA
Shows how trapped in a USA bubble you are. Newsflash...this has nothing to do with race. NO Person OUTSIDE of America (black white hispanic chinese etc..) woke up wondering why they hate the US! Im Canadian and theres a strong anti american sentiment here because of US political policies and arrogant interference and exploitation of other countries and people. (Thats why anywhere you go in the world..they hate american tourists!) That goes for all of your people trapped in the "bubble" whatever colour they may be.
Obama, on the other hand, were he to win the presidency (the big X factor making this quite possible is historically high voter-turnout, inspired mainly by his campaign), the power base within the Democratic Part would be upended. Sure, still in the neoliberal camp, but much less solidly so than the Clinton's. Obama's real political mission is still unclear -- he knows he must form a new kind of coalition to win the presidency (one that must win over Reagan Dems, and moderate Republicans) but his true political agenda remains less clear.
Obama's effect in creating new political beings at the very least opens up the opportunity for new energy and life in social and political movements in this country. If 5% of the new Obama supporters stay involved in politics AFTER the election, and many become dissillusioned by the slow pace of change in an Obama administration, then these folks are ripe to get involved in other ways.
These may seem like many "ifs", but I can guarantee you that Clinton and McCain are not having the same effect as Obama in getting more people to participate and pay attention to political issues. It's up to us already committed movement types to see this opportunity and to seize it -- regardless of what Obama does or does not do as a president.
The "hope" that Obama so often invokes, in my view, is less about him and much more about the thousands of new folks he is inspiring to get involved. There's no guarantee these folks will stay involved, but we can't ignore the fact of their interest right now. To write it off like Reed does here suggests our time would be better spent doing thinigs like watching more TV. This, we know, is a bad idea.
Please, do give some facts.
As for the fuzziness: You have some kind of general impression that Obama supporters are fanatics. Therefore, do not trust Obama. This is quite odd. Do you have any evidence for this claim? I initially became interested in Obama because he unequivocally ruled out any tactical use of nuclear weapons. He also clearly repudiated the refusal to negotiate with heads of states we disagree with. He was accused by Clinton of being naive for making both these claims. Then, he criticized the U.S.'s absurd Cuba policy. All of these play directly against the deeply problematic rhetoric and sabre rattling that Democrats do in order to seem 'strong' like Republicans. I could go on. I would say that this is primarily the reason people support Obama. He says things that many Democrats believe but our politicians are too afraid to say these things, because they are afraid of being targeted by the right. I was happy, I admit, to hear his position on nuclear weapons. No one running for major political office has had the guts to state such a position. His views are simply sensible and would not be as remarkable if other presidential candidates would make such claims. The enthusiasm for him is often for these kind of sensible claims he makes--claims which are standard moderate liberal positions, usually, but which run counter to the safe (but really quite mad) line other Democrats so devotedly espouse.
Every Obama supporter I know is quite aware he is a politician and that he is not in a position to make radical changes to the status quo. It is obvious that anyone hoping to be President would have to have a great deal of personal ambition. He got considerable support, of course, for his early speech on the Iraq war. This speech is responsible for a lot of support for him from young people, who are disturbed by the war. I realize the usual rejoinder to that claim is that there were no political costs to making the speech for him. However, this isn't a non-substantive reason for being in favor of a candidate. If the enthusiasm for him seems very strong, at least part of it is that many are desperate to get out of that war. I'm not even sure he can get us out of the war but given the political options open to us, it is hard not to support the candidate who didn't support the war from the beginning.
I also can't wrap my head around your idea that whites support him because they are somehow hoping to be acceptable to blacks. How do you account for the deep support he has among African Americans? Why would it not be a positive thing that 'white liberals' are actually in favor of a candidate that the vast majority of African Americans are in favor of? You yourself seem to be very dismissive of what African Americans say they perceive as racism. Perhaps you know better than they do?
Goddamn, you are one cynical man. The only way that whites could actually support a black person is because they want to become black in some safe theme park way? This is the only part of your argument I find rather offensive. You realize your conviction that whites won't vote for a black candidate is simply another way of saying that black people shouldn't run, don't you? Is there some kind of natural war going on between blacks and whites that I haven't been told about?
Your impressions of the way the campaign has gone are also very idiosyncratic. What Geraldine Ferraro said was so nutty it had to be commented on. But it also took off of its own accord. Very little in the campaign has turned around whether anything Clinton has done is racist. The way the media has taken up the issues is playing to white fears but I hardly think that Obama's campaign can be blamed for noticing that.
It worries me that you are a professor. You don't seem to know what a contradiction is. There is nothing contradictory about people thinking a black president would be historic and also hoping for racial reconciliation at the same time. Unless somehow you think hoping for racial reconciliation somehow makes a person non-black. What do you think exactly? Where is this contradiction? There is no reading of what you wrote in which I can find that holding both views is 'having it both ways.' He is black. His being president would be historic. Jesse Jackson, had he become president would have been historic also. But are you really so confused as to think that the fact that Jackson got closer than anyone else before Obama somehow makes a black president non-historic? And no matter what he says, it would be historic. Is there some reason why supporting the idea of racial reconciliation makes him non-black?
However, I agree with you about these things (1) Obama's race speech did not delve into the deepest problems of racism and (2) He has not repudiated neo-liberalism. I don't think he's claimed to. He has, however, pissed off both the anti-Castro lobby and the far right of AIPAC as well as made some fairly bold claims (in this absurd ultra neo-liberal context) on military policy. These aren't things people are even paying attention to, for the most part. He's not doing this to win the election. That kind of thing never wins elections. I fully expect him to hew somewhat to the neo-liberal line as I don't think there are many alternatives at this point. I hardly think this makes him a con man. (That is one of your more absurd claims.) Clinton wants to bomb the hell out of Iran. Obama might but he's less likely to. Only self indulgent college professors who voted for Nader would think there is no difference between these two things. Or that we should sit this one out because Obama is imperfect. Who's being unrealistic here?
God, by all means let's have McCain because we can't get someone progressive enough.
If this is the best you can do, you've really done Obama a service. You certainly haven't shown there is something wrong with him that wasn't obvious already. Is this weak and sloppy reasoning really the best you can do?
Returning to his platform, I am still unable to locate progressive policies. If universal health care is progressive, then Clinton tops him. Neither candidate is anti-trade. Obama has not said much at all about affirmative action , which is already a watered down remedy. Obama believes in "outreach" to our enemies. OK. And when they still disagree, what next? Obama wants to unify the country. But he has not even unified the Democrats. Also, is it really "progressive" to unify the country, when doing so requires massive concessions to right and centrist politics? Obama and Clinton have occupied the center during the nominating process. Don’t expect to see a left-turn later. .
Blacks learned long ago that simply getting elected is not enough. It's the politics that matter. Otherwise, we could elect Rice, Powell, Keyes, Thomas, Steele, and call it progress. Symbolic change does not elevate the material status of persons of color. Instead, it just makes liberal whites feel good about themselves and purge a little white guilt. And my wealthy black comrades say that they want to tell their kids they can be president too. I’m going to cry...What about the poor black kids who desperately need quality education, safe homes, and job opportunities?
Blacks always coalesce around one candidate. Gore and Kerry received about 80 percent of black votes during their primaries. But race operates in Obama's favor with both black and white voters. Blacks have so silenced dissent on this matter, that it is difficult to understand what blacks for Clinton think about Obama. But most blacks have not claimed that Obama's success means that Americans are post-racial or nearly post-racial like whites have. To blacks, Obama is just another step toward the "mountaintop,” but whites think we are just about to plant the flag.
I believe that liberals and so-called progressives in the party like Obama precisely because he does not have any blueprint for progressive change - particularly on race issues. They are a bunch of hypocrites, who live in all-white communities and send their kids to all–white public and private schools. They resist the equalization of school funding and busing “inner city” kids to wealthier white schools. Most “re-segregated” schools are in the BLUE states, and most are poorly funded with students drawn from areas of concentrated poverty. Despite all of the rhetoric about change, the candidates have not discussed this serious problem. Phony liberalism prevails.
This statement above is from Dr. Reed's article in the April The Nation magazine. It's a great statement that comes at the end of the article leaving me hanging. OK, Dr. Reed, go ahead an articulate.
His pessimistic, spirit killing and 'vacuous' statements opposing Obama seem again to be his style. He slashes and burns with ad hominem arguments but presents no evidence, no logic to convince one of the saliency of his own thinking. I wish political folks who disagree could express their disagreement with substance and without burning the village. Dr. Reed needs to heed his own advise and not depend on "selling [his] image rather than substance."
Dr. Reed puts Obama in context, he doesnt just "fancy namecall" , unlike you Obama nuts.
You point out that you are on record in last November's issue as saying you would rather sit this election out than vote for either Obama or Clinton. Now you're saying Clinton is "the lesser of two evils," and that you don't believe either one can beat McCain.
So am I supposed to just crawl into a hole and not vote in November, and let McCain win? Am I supposed to accept at least four more years of incompetent, do-nothing Republican leadership.
I don't have a horse in this race. I voted for John Edwards in Florida's "does not count" primary. I'm under no illusions about either Obama or Clinton -- neither candidate is perfect. But they're both better than McCain.
I, for one, am sick and tired of Clinton and Obama supporters -- such as those whose comments I've read here -- sniping at each other. One of them will win, one of them will lose. I suggest the supporters of the loser get over it and get behind the winner, because there is only one other alternative -- a McCain presidency -- and that would be a continuation of the disaster that has been the last eight years. I, for one, do not want to go there.
We all seem to have forgotten something. The president does not make the laws. Congress does. If we elect progressives to Congress, we can advance a progressive agenda. But only if we elect a Democratic president.
If Congress passes a health care bill that's more progressive than that proposed by either Obama or Clinton, I have no doubt that both Obama and Clinton would sign it. I also have no doubt that McCain would veto it.
Whoever wins our the Democratic nomination, we had better all get behind the Democratic nominee. This one's WAY too important to sit out.
And isn't that really the only choice you get in boojwah politics anymore? Not substance, not mission, not message. Just notness. A fitting end to a system that hasn't had anything even halfway decent to offer people in this country for almost fifty years now.
This is what it is all about. Stop complaining and get involved!
As I read Prof. Reed's article, I kept expecting a nod to the vibrant grassroots Green Party activity in Reed's home state of Pennsylvania. By way of example, five Greens are running for US house of representative on the Green Party ticket in Pennsylvaniia.. http://www.gp.org/elections/candidates/index.php When the Green Party finishes its convention deliberations in Chicago(ironic venue for us old timers), Pennsylvanians will have a Green alternative to McCain or Obama(or Clinton), as well as many Greens further down the ticket, Straight ticket Green voting may be a real alternative in Pennsylvania for those who wish to express their total dissatisfaction with our two headed War Party as it lurches into 2009.
What do you call a 360-under the legs, behind the back slam dunk when you're down by 30? We call it an L, a LOSS. This is EXACTLY what your piece is.
Obama doesn't get it. I'm voting 3rd party.
I agree with the other guest on today's Democracy Now program that you need a sense of hope. Paradoxically, hope stems from despair--so you need a deeper sense of despair about the situation I mention above. You need to sense it "feelingly" rather than only intellectually. Then perhaps you would realize that it is imperative that we elect a leader like Obama who has inspired a whole new group of American citizens to become involved with the political process, perhaps thereby having an unforeseen effect on the political behavior of those we elect. I think it's cynical and arrogant to label them as “Obamanistas,” "cultish," or a "fan club"--as if your images of past political history rule out new, unimagined possibilities. In politics, we create crystal balls—they don’t just sit there independent of our own perceptions. History certainly provides a reservior of knowledge, but it also is a “nightmare from which we need to awaken.”
When you tell your students that “no politician in this system is likely to be a person that you’d want for your sister-in-law or brother-in-law” are you prepared to provide evidence in every case? Presenting unsupportable generalizations from the classroom podium is not a way to educate students in critical thinking—a skill that we all so sorely need.
Preferring to sit out the whole election rather than vote for either Obama or Clinton is actually a vote for perpetuating the status quo of Bush/Cheney/McCain. (I.e., it is not possible to "sit out.")
Why spend so much energy debunking Obama? It seems that the real-time effect of this is to promote McCain. A McCain presidency will ensure an endless string of “Winter Soldier” gatherings, documenting the horrendous effect of our “warfare system” on the young people who get sucked into it and maimed as a result (how many of your students are among them?). An Obama presidency at least carries with it the possibility of a change in this dreadful situation.
With all due respect, do actually have anything to say about Obama that has any bearing to the challenges facing America?
This name dropping and juxtapositioning him against individuals who are not on the ballot is patently unfair.
Show me a politician who is not an opportunist! He is running for president, not for pope
Obama doesn't only talk tough love to Blacks. He talks tough love to all of us, in the sense that we all must come together and address what ails us and that doing so won't be easy. I haven't heard him ghetto bash like Cosby, so I don't know what specific statements the author is referring to here.
Okay, what about the "outfit"? What did it need to be in order to live up to the author's estimation of legitimacy? Was this somehow not grass roots organizing? Is the implication here that Obama is puffing?
I don't know the specifics. Did she grow up on the South Side or not? How poor must one be to meet the author's definition? There is such thing as the working poor. Or, is the implication that one must be poor and disenfranchised for one's poverty to count. I am aware of the alleged corruption associated with the "Daley machine" and with its far reaching tentacles, it seems everyone in Chicago politics at the time (with any power) was a part of that machine. I don't see how portraying Michelle Obama as poor is somehow more egregious than Clinton portraying herself as poor (which image she has repeatedly attempted to sell). The fact is that people vote based on image, even if you have substance to offer, it is wise that you wrap it in a favorable image if you expect to be elected. Again, merely creating an image does not itself somehow prove that beneath the image Obama lacks substance. That is like saying that because a brain surgeon wears a fake Rolex, he really doesn't have the necessary skill to perform surgery. Image and substance are two different things. Sadly, a bad image can keep one out of power, regardless of how much substantive value one may offer.
If being too enthusiastic equals being naive and ignorant, I'd still choose this over providing a jaded, cynical commentary that frankly misuses the author's obviously good education.
One can identify as a Black candidate and also be a unifier. These two are not mutually exclusive. And, surely racism has been afoot in this election. Can it even be argued that this business with Wright involved racism, the way that Obama is not given the benefit of the doubt for his statements, such as the one on bitter voters clinging to guns and religion versus the way that Clinton always is given the benefit of the doubt, including during her recent tirade on hardworking whites.
Clinton is race baiting. It doesn't matter how light or dark Obama is but it does matter that someone would attempt to alter his color in order to appeal to racists sentiments in this country. If I learned that Obama had lightened his picture, I would criticize him in the same vein.
As for Ferraro, a number of inexperienced Whites have been elected president, so it is inappropriate to say that Obama had he been a charismatic young white man touting a hope/change platform would not be where he is now. This is different from a discussion of the historic character claim, which has to do with the fact that Obama identifies as a Black man.
In short, Obama is positioned as he is because of his talents, skills, and abilities. To say that he is positioned as he is because of his race appears racist. Obama's candidacy is historical, because this is the first time that the talents, skills, and abilities of a man who identifies as Black, have landed that man in the position of being one of two contender's for the democratic nomination for president, to acknowledge this is not racist, it is factual.
How does supporting Obama makes one sort of Black? How does this work? Was I sort of white when I voted for Clinton or any of the other white presidents? Does everything in the world equal only race? I hear the "it's our time" line in a different way. Obama is appealing to people who share a common desire to move forward in a certain way, together. "Our" does not mean Black people or White people, it means people who share this desire. Yes, we may be idealists, but all change begins with an idea.
It seems the author is voting against Obama not for Clinton . Also, I think not voting for someone because you believe they can't win is the ultimate cynicism and a betrayal of the democratic process. It is the reason that image becomes more important than substance, because people want to vote, not for substance, but for a winner, or someone who seems like them, or whatever is the story of the day.
What will the Republicans do to Clinton? Voting for Clinton is making a determination based on fear and expediency, not on principle.
Obama is not all things to all people. He looks at the best each has to offer and trumpets the good. Our problem as a society is that we have been sold a false doctrine that tells us to hate and fight. Whether we see ourselves as the white hat or black hat, we are told that our opposition is all wrong. No one is all wrong and it is far more honest to acknowledge that there is some good and correctness in our opponents and to use that as a starting place for peace and reconciliation.
Does the author have a problem with the monolithic portrayal of Blacks or is his problem that the monolith portrayed is not one with which he agrees? Obviously, generalizations rarely are completely accurate. For example, it appears that the author disagrees with the notion that there were excesses in the 1960s and 1970s, though saying that there were no excesses is also a generalization. Finding nothing praiseworthy in Reagan is just another example of the philosophy that one must damn entirely those with whom one disagrees. This limited approach is dishonest. We can learn a lot from those with whom we disagree but first we must acknowledge that there is something worthy of being learned, which means acknowledging that Regan is not Satan.
I hear the author saying, be afraid and allow that fear to prevent you from voting for Obama, since Obama may not win and even if he wins, may not save the black race. I am not voting for Obama because I need him to save me. The best way to ensure that Obama wins is to engage the process. The best way to ensure that Obama does what we need him to do once he wins is to engage the process and provide him with the support and feedback he needs to be accountable. Or, we can stay at home or vote for Clinton , a strategy that is akin to saying: "let's stay out of white folks business, a presidential election ain't no place for little ol me to be sticking my nose."
Obama officially disowned his former pastor, and for what? Because the man gave a speech, and defended his reputation.
Obama is not calling for universal medical coverage. You could plausibly claim he's calling for expanded medical coverage, or perhaps more universal medical coverage, but to claim he's calling for universal health care is a canard.
Also, when you say that Obama is calling for "an easier life for working class people", I don't know what you're referring to, but it's likely false. Obama's top economic advisor is Austan Goolsbee, a U.Chicago neolibertarian, and his response to the subprime mortgage crisis for about 7-8 months was to say let the markets work this problem out (which was even more libertarian than the Bush administration, which was at least tepidly wading into the waters of government regulation and intervention). Furthermore, Obama never talks about working class solutions. Instead he talks about hope and change, and the power of the individual. This is Republican rhetoric, that has previously been used to justify cuts in social programs that benefit working class people (such as OSHA, job training assistance programs, school lunches, welfare, etc.)
There is a reason that working class people are thoroughly rejecting Obama. Yes, part of that reason might be race, but to claim that is the whole reason behind Obama's failure to connect with these folks is lazy. Obama is the candidate of people who haven't felt the pains of the last 30 years (including, sadly, Clinton, although to a lesser extent than the others) because of market-based government: young people and rich people.
But his record in the US Senate has been undistinguished and certainly not representative of a "liberal actively concerned with those who are at the bottom". As far as I can tell, Obama has had 3 major voting differences from Hillary during his contemporaneous time in the Senate: 1) voting for tort reform; 2) voting for Cheney's energy bill (pushing ethanol, among other things); and 3) voting against the Democrats' primary amendment to water down the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill.
On 1), he has spoken the standard neoliberal mush about how higher litigation costs are ruining the competitiveness of American business. On 2), he has repeatedly tried since his vote to claim that he is a proponent of "alternative energy", without specifically mentioning ethanol, which environmentalists think is a disaster. You may also be interested to know that he's a big recipient of Big Corn donations. On 3) he initially lied about his vote, claiming that the Dem amendment would preempt stronger state usury laws. After this lie was brought to his face, he reversed course, and since then has disingenuously tried to equate the 2001 Bankruptcy Bill (which was bad) with the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill (which was exponentially worse). Yes, Obama fans will tell you, he voted against the 05 Bankruptcy Bill, but as an Illinois Democrat, he really had no other choice. Anyone who knows anything about bankruptcy knows that Obama was in the tank for the banks on this one, and his meaningless "no" vote on the final bill was far less significant than his crucial "no" vote on the Dem amendment.
Which brings me to another point: Obama has repeatedly misled the American people by claiming he doesn't take lobbyist money. What he fails to tell people is that he takes money bundled by lobbyists, which is far more important and significant as a source of cash. The $2,300 that each lobbyist (I think there are something like 1000 total registered federal lobbyists) can offer is not anything to sneeze at, but it's really a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of thousands of dollars (or even millions) they can rustle up from their members, clients, friends, etc.
Obama has clearly been influenced by lobbyists: his votes on the bankruptcy amendment (he's a huge beneficiary of the banks, and has I believe now outpaced Hillary as far as financial institution donations (including hedge funds)) and ethanol (he's been a top recipient of donations from Big Corn, and is known around the Hill as being in their pocket). His laughable ban on donations from registered lobbyists alone hasn't stopped him from hiring lobbyists, or meeting regularly with them.
At least with Hillary, I know she's not making this ludicrous claim that she's immune from lobbying. And I know she can on occasion decide that principle is more important than political lobbying. I haven't seen anything from Obama yet to indicate the same. And the fact that he is basically lying about lobbyist money, by using the very narrowest definition of "lobbyist money" to imply that he's financially insulated from them, to me is very troublesome.
The only viable hope that we have as a Nation is to run out the special interests in America, and start with a whiff of new air. In Africa they say "You do not show a bull the knife you intend to slaughter it with". Read the Art of War, you cannot show your true colors and position to the enemy and expect to win; for HEAVEN'S SAKE, that's why we built the stealth bomber!!!
You naively imagine that if a candidate came with the express intention of overthrowing the system it would let him? Ask Nader, he may be honest to his creed but he will have lived a wasted dream because the system will NEVER, NEVER NEVER let him get to within an inch of the levers of power.
I would rather a clever clear eyed intelligent operative who knows what he wants to achieve and works towards it for the greater good. Eve if it means seeming to sacrifice his ideas in the doing. Ask Dubya, he CONNED us all good time!!!
Obama is not the saviour, the system will not yield to a frontal wholesale attack, even he can only tweak it, but among all the candidates on offer only he can possibly tweak it. The others run with the system and are part of it. We will send our best hope, we will send Obama